1 00:00:04,789 --> 00:00:02,470 quite a bit of activities going on on 2 00:00:07,030 --> 00:00:04,799 board the station today but not only 3 00:00:07,909 --> 00:00:07,040 inside but also outside 4 00:00:10,070 --> 00:00:07,919 as 5 00:00:11,749 --> 00:00:10,080 this week station controllers here on 6 00:00:13,749 --> 00:00:11,759 the ground at the goddard space flight 7 00:00:16,630 --> 00:00:13,759 center have continued some work that 8 00:00:19,109 --> 00:00:16,640 they started earlier this spring with a 9 00:00:21,189 --> 00:00:19,119 payload on the outboard truss section of 10 00:00:22,870 --> 00:00:21,199 the international space station this 11 00:00:24,790 --> 00:00:22,880 marks the second 12 00:00:27,429 --> 00:00:24,800 round of testings for the robotic 13 00:00:29,189 --> 00:00:27,439 refueling mission and joining me now on 14 00:00:31,990 --> 00:00:29,199 the phone from the goddard space flight 15 00:00:34,470 --> 00:00:32,000 center is joe mcguire who is the robotic 16 00:00:36,630 --> 00:00:34,480 refueling mission project manager 17 00:00:38,709 --> 00:00:36,640 jill i want to thank you first off for 18 00:00:40,150 --> 00:00:38,719 joining me today and was hoping maybe 19 00:00:42,150 --> 00:00:40,160 you could give us a quick overview of 20 00:00:43,750 --> 00:00:42,160 the robotic refueling mission real quick 21 00:00:46,310 --> 00:00:43,760 and what you guys accomplished a little 22 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:46,320 bit earlier this spring 23 00:00:50,470 --> 00:00:48,559 yes great thank you for having me i 24 00:00:52,389 --> 00:00:50,480 appreciate the time to talk about the 25 00:00:54,389 --> 00:00:52,399 robotic refueling mission we're very 26 00:00:56,950 --> 00:00:54,399 excited about everything that's been 27 00:00:59,910 --> 00:00:56,960 going on on station the main objective 28 00:01:01,270 --> 00:00:59,920 of the robotic refueling mission is to 29 00:01:03,270 --> 00:01:01,280 demonstrate 30 00:01:04,789 --> 00:01:03,280 that we can manipulate standard 31 00:01:07,109 --> 00:01:04,799 satellite interfaces that weren't 32 00:01:10,230 --> 00:01:07,119 designed to be done robotically so 33 00:01:12,469 --> 00:01:10,240 the rrm hosts a variety of different 34 00:01:14,950 --> 00:01:12,479 standard satellite interfaces as well as 35 00:01:17,109 --> 00:01:14,960 a fill and drain valve on a spacecraft 36 00:01:19,670 --> 00:01:17,119 that in later this year we'll do an 37 00:01:21,190 --> 00:01:19,680 end-to-end task to show that we can 38 00:01:23,350 --> 00:01:21,200 open up the fill and drain valve and 39 00:01:24,230 --> 00:01:23,360 transfer fuel through the fill and drain 40 00:01:26,469 --> 00:01:24,240 valve 41 00:01:28,149 --> 00:01:26,479 but the tasks that we've been doing so 42 00:01:30,069 --> 00:01:28,159 far which we started in march and then 43 00:01:32,870 --> 00:01:30,079 have con been continuing 44 00:01:35,749 --> 00:01:32,880 um the last couple days is to do 45 00:01:37,910 --> 00:01:35,759 to show that we can remove some of 46 00:01:40,069 --> 00:01:37,920 standard caps and valves that you would 47 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:40,079 find on a satellite and cut some of the 48 00:01:46,069 --> 00:01:43,920 safety wire holding those caps in place 49 00:01:48,310 --> 00:01:46,079 okay well i know you guys are working 50 00:01:51,030 --> 00:01:48,320 with the station's robotic arm and 51 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:51,040 specifically the dexter or the uh you 52 00:01:55,830 --> 00:01:53,200 know the dexterous robot that likes to 53 00:01:57,670 --> 00:01:55,840 sit out on the end of that thing so why 54 00:01:59,270 --> 00:01:57,680 get a get a little more specific if you 55 00:02:01,109 --> 00:01:59,280 can water i know there are a number of 56 00:02:02,310 --> 00:02:01,119 tools on board the robotic refueling 57 00:02:04,469 --> 00:02:02,320 mission what are some of the tools you 58 00:02:06,389 --> 00:02:04,479 guys been working with this week 59 00:02:09,430 --> 00:02:06,399 okay this week we have been mainly 60 00:02:12,150 --> 00:02:09,440 working with our multi-function tool 61 00:02:14,229 --> 00:02:12,160 the spdm robot on the international 62 00:02:16,869 --> 00:02:14,239 space station 63 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:16,879 on we started on tuesday night of this 64 00:02:18,390 --> 00:02:17,680 week 65 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:18,400 the 66 00:02:27,270 --> 00:02:23,920 tool from 67 00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:27,280 the rrm housing and we went to pick up a 68 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:28,800 series of different adapters that we 69 00:02:32,710 --> 00:02:30,560 have on board the multi-function tool is 70 00:02:33,910 --> 00:02:32,720 basically like a standard socket wrench 71 00:02:35,830 --> 00:02:33,920 that you can change out different 72 00:02:37,990 --> 00:02:35,840 sockets on the ground well we have a 73 00:02:41,830 --> 00:02:38,000 multi-function tool that can change out 74 00:02:43,750 --> 00:02:41,840 different adapters on board so the spdm 75 00:02:46,630 --> 00:02:43,760 robot pulled out the multi-function tool 76 00:02:48,390 --> 00:02:46,640 from the housing and then went and 77 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:48,400 picked up the first adapter which we 78 00:02:53,990 --> 00:02:51,120 call the t-valve adapter and 79 00:02:58,949 --> 00:02:54,000 removed the 80 00:03:01,509 --> 00:02:58,959 the panel and then stowed the t-valve 81 00:03:03,110 --> 00:03:01,519 into the receptacle 82 00:03:04,390 --> 00:03:03,120 the only tool that we intend to use 83 00:03:06,309 --> 00:03:04,400 during this go around is the 84 00:03:08,790 --> 00:03:06,319 multi-function tool we have three other 85 00:03:11,430 --> 00:03:08,800 tools on board a safety cap removal tool 86 00:03:14,470 --> 00:03:11,440 a wire cutter tool which we used to do 87 00:03:16,949 --> 00:03:14,480 the tasks in march and then we have a 88 00:03:20,309 --> 00:03:16,959 refueling tool that we'll use to do the 89 00:03:21,670 --> 00:03:20,319 refueling task later this year 90 00:03:23,589 --> 00:03:21,680 okay we're taking a look at this 91 00:03:25,270 --> 00:03:23,599 animation right now and 92 00:03:27,030 --> 00:03:25,280 and again this is all controlled 93 00:03:29,030 --> 00:03:27,040 robotically from down here on the ground 94 00:03:30,229 --> 00:03:29,040 it's pretty fascinating stuff and i 95 00:03:31,750 --> 00:03:30,239 believe we're looking at the the 96 00:03:33,670 --> 00:03:31,760 multi-function tools so it's going 97 00:03:34,470 --> 00:03:33,680 through and removing a system of caps 98 00:03:37,990 --> 00:03:34,480 and 99 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:38,000 that you would expect to find on a 100 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:40,000 satellite and these are things that you 101 00:03:43,830 --> 00:03:41,760 know aren't built to actually be 102 00:03:46,949 --> 00:03:43,840 manipulated 103 00:03:48,949 --> 00:03:46,959 correct so the whole goal of rrm was to 104 00:03:50,949 --> 00:03:48,959 show that we can build an innovative 105 00:03:53,110 --> 00:03:50,959 tool to bridge the gap between the end 106 00:03:55,910 --> 00:03:53,120 of the robot and the satellite interface 107 00:03:58,390 --> 00:03:55,920 that wasn't designed to be 108 00:04:00,149 --> 00:03:58,400 manipulated robotically so the first 109 00:04:01,990 --> 00:04:00,159 task you see in the animation was the 110 00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:02,000 t-valve where you saw the multi-function 111 00:04:06,470 --> 00:04:03,840 tool grab the t-valve adapter remove the 112 00:04:09,110 --> 00:04:06,480 t-valve the second thing you saw in the 113 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:09,120 animation was the ambient the 114 00:04:12,070 --> 00:04:10,720 multi-function tool grabbed the ambient 115 00:04:13,750 --> 00:04:12,080 cap adapter 116 00:04:16,469 --> 00:04:13,760 and that happened last night we 117 00:04:19,110 --> 00:04:16,479 successfully removed the ambient cap and 118 00:04:22,230 --> 00:04:19,120 restowed it into its receptacle 119 00:04:24,629 --> 00:04:22,240 and then also last night we grabbed the 120 00:04:26,870 --> 00:04:24,639 plug manipulation adapter and released 121 00:04:29,270 --> 00:04:26,880 it from its receptacle and later today 122 00:04:31,030 --> 00:04:29,280 when operations resume we will then 123 00:04:33,670 --> 00:04:31,040 transfer over to 124 00:04:37,590 --> 00:04:33,680 the payload and 125 00:04:39,350 --> 00:04:37,600 pull out a plug that is down in the 126 00:04:41,110 --> 00:04:39,360 inside the receptacle where the ambient 127 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:41,120 cap that we removed last night is there 128 00:04:45,350 --> 00:04:43,360 is now a plug that's housed inside there 129 00:04:46,870 --> 00:04:45,360 we want to show that we can robotically 130 00:04:49,270 --> 00:04:46,880 remove that plug so the plug 131 00:04:50,550 --> 00:04:49,280 manipulation adapter is designed 132 00:04:55,189 --> 00:04:50,560 to 133 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:55,199 plug and we will 134 00:05:01,110 --> 00:04:57,840 retract that plug just a few inches not 135 00:05:03,270 --> 00:05:01,120 or i mean half of an inch about 136 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:03,280 it is safely controlled so that we don't 137 00:05:06,629 --> 00:05:05,120 have any debris flying on station but we 138 00:05:09,189 --> 00:05:06,639 will be able to show that we can get it 139 00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:09,199 past the o-ring that is installed in 140 00:05:12,629 --> 00:05:10,400 there 141 00:05:14,950 --> 00:05:12,639 okay and as you mentioned this is all 142 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:14,960 kind of in preparation of some upcoming 143 00:05:17,990 --> 00:05:16,960 activities later this summer where you 144 00:05:19,830 --> 00:05:18,000 guys are actually going to be 145 00:05:21,350 --> 00:05:19,840 transferring some fuel over can you give 146 00:05:23,430 --> 00:05:21,360 us a quick preview 147 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:23,440 of what's going to happen uh when that 148 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:24,720 occurs 149 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:26,880 yes the the hope is in the end of august 150 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:29,120 we will get scheduled for another set of 151 00:05:33,350 --> 00:05:31,360 operations and 152 00:05:36,150 --> 00:05:33,360 we have a standard fill and drain valve 153 00:05:38,870 --> 00:05:36,160 or a fueling valve on a spacecraft on 154 00:05:41,749 --> 00:05:38,880 board the rrm and it is fully closed out 155 00:05:43,909 --> 00:05:41,759 like you would find it on a spacecraft 156 00:05:45,029 --> 00:05:43,919 before a spacecraft launches 157 00:05:47,430 --> 00:05:45,039 at the cape 158 00:05:49,189 --> 00:05:47,440 they fill the spacecraft with hydrazine 159 00:05:50,550 --> 00:05:49,199 and then because hydrazine is so highly 160 00:05:52,870 --> 00:05:50,560 combustible 161 00:05:55,590 --> 00:05:52,880 the fill and drain valve is closed out 162 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:55,600 with a series of caps and the caps are 163 00:06:00,790 --> 00:05:57,360 then closed out with the series with 164 00:06:04,550 --> 00:06:00,800 safety wire in order to ensure that the 165 00:06:05,590 --> 00:06:04,560 valve does not open during launch 166 00:06:08,390 --> 00:06:05,600 so 167 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:08,400 once that's all great for ground safety 168 00:06:12,710 --> 00:06:10,720 but now if you wanted to try to refuel 169 00:06:14,469 --> 00:06:12,720 that satellite in orbit you have to be 170 00:06:16,629 --> 00:06:14,479 able to cut all that safety wire and 171 00:06:19,510 --> 00:06:16,639 remove all of those caps 172 00:06:21,670 --> 00:06:19,520 so in august we will start 173 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:21,680 one by one we will cut the safety wire 174 00:06:25,670 --> 00:06:24,160 on the tertiary cap remove the tertiary 175 00:06:27,990 --> 00:06:25,680 cap and stow it then we will cut the 176 00:06:31,590 --> 00:06:28,000 safety wire on the safety cap remove the 177 00:06:34,950 --> 00:06:31,600 safety cap and stow it and then we will 178 00:06:36,950 --> 00:06:34,960 the spdm robot will acquire our nozzle 179 00:06:38,550 --> 00:06:36,960 tool the nozzle tool will interface to 180 00:06:41,189 --> 00:06:38,560 the fill and drain valve 181 00:06:44,309 --> 00:06:41,199 and through a series of 182 00:06:48,390 --> 00:06:44,319 operations using the torque advance on 183 00:06:50,870 --> 00:06:48,400 the otcm band effector on the spdm robot 184 00:06:52,710 --> 00:06:50,880 we will then be able to 185 00:06:54,469 --> 00:06:52,720 acquire the thread onto the fill and 186 00:06:56,710 --> 00:06:54,479 drain valve 187 00:06:59,110 --> 00:06:56,720 open up the actuation nut and transfer 188 00:07:02,469 --> 00:06:59,120 fuel through that interface 189 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:02,479 so we have a half a gallon of ethanol 190 00:07:06,629 --> 00:07:04,400 on board in our fuel transfer system 191 00:07:08,950 --> 00:07:06,639 that the back half of our payload has 192 00:07:13,029 --> 00:07:08,960 the the fuel tran what we call the fuel 193 00:07:13,990 --> 00:07:13,039 transfer system it has all of the 194 00:07:15,670 --> 00:07:14,000 the 195 00:07:17,990 --> 00:07:15,680 required hardware to 196 00:07:19,270 --> 00:07:18,000 pump and transfer the fuel through the 197 00:07:20,790 --> 00:07:19,280 interface 198 00:07:22,629 --> 00:07:20,800 okay well we are definitely going to be 199 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:22,639 looking out for those operations when 200 00:07:25,029 --> 00:07:24,160 they occur a little bit later this 201 00:07:27,589 --> 00:07:25,039 summer 202 00:07:29,430 --> 00:07:27,599 and just kind of kind of as a conclusion 203 00:07:31,350 --> 00:07:29,440 what what kind of missions could 204 00:07:33,270 --> 00:07:31,360 something like this enable in the future 205 00:07:35,110 --> 00:07:33,280 i mean robotically refueling satellites 206 00:07:37,029 --> 00:07:35,120 isn't something that we really have the 207 00:07:40,150 --> 00:07:37,039 capability to do right now what what 208 00:07:43,029 --> 00:07:40,160 kind of possibilities would this open up 209 00:07:45,510 --> 00:07:43,039 well the the goal is that once we can 210 00:07:48,070 --> 00:07:45,520 demonstrate the technology on 211 00:07:48,950 --> 00:07:48,080 space station that we buy down the risk 212 00:07:52,150 --> 00:07:48,960 for 213 00:07:54,230 --> 00:07:52,160 future applications such as any 214 00:07:56,710 --> 00:07:54,240 government or commercial birds that 215 00:07:57,510 --> 00:07:56,720 would need refueling we could extend the 216 00:07:59,749 --> 00:07:57,520 life 217 00:08:01,749 --> 00:07:59,759 we could robotically interface to that 218 00:08:03,589 --> 00:08:01,759 spacecraft through like grabbing on 219 00:08:05,670 --> 00:08:03,599 autonomously grabbing on to say the 220 00:08:08,070 --> 00:08:05,680 launch adapter ring or the marmon ring 221 00:08:09,430 --> 00:08:08,080 then once we acquired that satellite we 222 00:08:11,270 --> 00:08:09,440 could then go through the robotic 223 00:08:13,510 --> 00:08:11,280 operations similar to what we're doing 224 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:13,520 on station we can go through the robotic 225 00:08:17,749 --> 00:08:15,440 operations to 226 00:08:21,430 --> 00:08:17,759 refuel the spacecraft or we could in 227 00:08:23,830 --> 00:08:21,440 some cases maybe repair or 228 00:08:25,749 --> 00:08:23,840 deploy an appendage that you know didn't 229 00:08:27,670 --> 00:08:25,759 deploy such as a solar ray that got 230 00:08:29,189 --> 00:08:27,680 stuck after deployment we could go and 231 00:08:31,510 --> 00:08:29,199 grab the solar array 232 00:08:33,509 --> 00:08:31,520 and do a final deployment of that so the 233 00:08:35,269 --> 00:08:33,519 idea is is that we could 234 00:08:37,589 --> 00:08:35,279 change the paradigm of satellite 235 00:08:39,670 --> 00:08:37,599 servicing where 236 00:08:41,909 --> 00:08:39,680 we could then send a robot vehicle up 237 00:08:43,350 --> 00:08:41,919 and do this with a robot and extend the 238 00:08:46,070 --> 00:08:43,360 life of 239 00:08:49,190 --> 00:08:46,080 spacecraft either again by refueling or 240 00:08:51,590 --> 00:08:49,200 servicing them and the hope is that 241 00:08:55,110 --> 00:08:51,600 we will also be able to aid in like the 242 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:55,120 future exploration goals of nasa when to 243 00:08:58,949 --> 00:08:57,600 have robots and humans working together 244 00:09:01,110 --> 00:08:58,959 in space where 245 00:09:02,630 --> 00:09:01,120 you can extend the time that you can 246 00:09:05,829 --> 00:09:02,640 have 247 00:09:07,990 --> 00:09:05,839 servicing and exploration done with 248 00:09:09,509 --> 00:09:08,000 robots doing you know the jobs while the 249 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:09,519 astronauts are sleeping similar to what 250 00:09:11,990 --> 00:09:11,040 we're doing on the international space 251 00:09:13,990 --> 00:09:12,000 station 252 00:09:16,310 --> 00:09:14,000 you can mult you can 253 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:16,320 have accomplish more in a shorter amount 254 00:09:19,990 --> 00:09:17,920 of time by having the robots and the 255 00:09:21,509 --> 00:09:20,000 humans working together so we're hoping 256 00:09:24,150 --> 00:09:21,519 by doing these demonstrations that we're 257 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:24,160 enabling the technology to move forward 258 00:09:27,190 --> 00:09:25,200 and do 259 00:09:29,750 --> 00:09:27,200 you think these things outside of space 260 00:09:32,470 --> 00:09:29,760 station in low earth orbit or in 261 00:09:34,389 --> 00:09:32,480 geosynchronous orbit or you know places 262 00:09:36,550 --> 00:09:34,399 asteroids you know places where further 263 00:09:37,590 --> 00:09:36,560 exploration where nasa wants to go in 264 00:09:39,190 --> 00:09:37,600 the future 265 00:09:41,269 --> 00:09:39,200 so really just adding a whole other 266 00:09:42,470 --> 00:09:41,279 dimension to human space flight even 267 00:09:45,509 --> 00:09:42,480 though everything's being controlled 268 00:09:47,430 --> 00:09:45,519 robotically and also giving a lot of 269 00:09:49,030 --> 00:09:47,440 satellites a second chance at life and 270 00:09:50,949 --> 00:09:49,040 potentially saving 271 00:09:53,269 --> 00:09:50,959 you know millions of dollars of 272 00:09:54,550 --> 00:09:53,279 replacing satellites for communications 273 00:09:56,310 --> 00:09:54,560 and other any 274 00:09:57,910 --> 00:09:56,320 uh function that satellites are put into 275 00:09:59,910 --> 00:09:57,920 orbit for nowadays 276 00:10:02,069 --> 00:09:59,920 well jill i want to thank you for coming 277 00:10:03,590 --> 00:10:02,079 on with us today we're really excited to 278 00:10:05,190 --> 00:10:03,600 be following along with the robotic 279 00:10:06,470 --> 00:10:05,200 refueling mission we'll definitely be 280 00:10:08,310 --> 00:10:06,480 looking out for you a little bit later 281 00:10:10,069 --> 00:10:08,320 this summer when you guys actually start 282 00:10:11,910 --> 00:10:10,079 fueling up 283 00:10:13,670 --> 00:10:11,920 sounds great thank you so much again for 284 00:10:16,069 --> 00:10:13,680 the opportunity and and thanks to the 285 00:10:17,670 --> 00:10:16,079 robot operators at johnson space center 286 00:10:19,910 --> 00:10:17,680 and the canadian space agency who have 287 00:10:22,069 --> 00:10:19,920 been doing a wonderful job working 288 00:10:23,750 --> 00:10:22,079 through all of our tasks and and being